September 30

Down 20,000 the last
Posted on September 30th, 2011 at 11:59 PM by admin

2 months playing live…

Let me begin by saying I have only played live my entire life (never found online poker interesting).

I have gone threw the worst run of my life. My bankroll is quickly dying. I used to win 80% of the time. Now I cant manage one winning session.

I play with against the same people for the most part except for the occasional few. I play 2/5 5/10 and 10/20 depending on my mood. Lately more 2/5 than 10/20.

My questions are:

Should I quit for a while and recharge?

What can I do to improve my game?

I don’t know what my questions are really. I guess so words of encouragement and perhaps some advice would be good.

Thanks to anybody

|||Are 5/10 and 10/20 live really so soft that winning 80% of sessions is possible given you’re only gonna get like 300 hands/session tops? I doubt even 2nl is that soft.

Also how many buyins is this? If the swing was mostly at 10/20 it’s a pretty insignificant swing. If it was mostly at 5/10 or lower you probably have big leaks.

Posted on September 30th, 2011 at 10:42 PM by admin

After the FTP was closed,I tried to go elsewhere and I tried OnGame and PartyPoker.
I don’t really like them,not because of the players,but because of the software which is quite annoying and I don’t seem to get used to it.
PS seems better than these two platforms but I wonder how are the players at 10nl?
After the Black Friday at FTP the players were all just nits and regulars,rarely a fish.
Is this the case of PS too ?

|||Have you tried iPoker. They used to have quite a few games running at that level. PS is better software, but the players were probably better at least pre-BF. But really at 10nl the games are going to be soft for anyone who reads 2p2 and has a basic knowledge of how to play poker.

|||i would say 80% is made up of nits and regs. Depends on what time as well, more fish around friday night and weekends.

|||Probably pretty safe to assume they are all terrible. Focus on becoming less terrible than everyone else and you will make money.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by JomboJuice22Probably pretty safe to assume they are all terrible. Focus on becoming less terrible than everyone else and you will make money.this sounds trollish and retarded but its actually the best piece of advice u can get imo

|||thanks for the quick replies!

|||Actually i’ve been thinking the same thing. I’m considering skipping it and going to 25NL instead. I remember 10NL was just so nitty but I haven’t played it lately. Last time I played it felt like people really paid more attention to what I was doing than at 5NL.

|||I didn’t play those stacks for a long time but I’m almost certain that 10NL is softer than 25NL for obvious reasons.

Skipping it seems like a bad idea.

September 30

everleaf freerolls
Posted on September 30th, 2011 at 9:27 PM by admin

hey everybody,

im just doing this as sort of a psa (def not a shill or anything) and i dont think alot of people know about this. minted poker on the everleaf network (idk about other skins) is currently running freeroll steps that pay out better than any freeroll ive ever seen. $15 top prize for step 5, 10 for 2nd 5 for 3rd, and you get $2 just for making it to step 5.

Thought alot of beginning american players would be interested in this so i’m posting it here. seems like a good way to build a bankroll out of nothing which is what im trying to do.

edit (to try to show that im not a shill): in the interest of full disclosure, im doing this for purely selfish reasons because traffic is not that great and i would like to be able to get into more games lol.

|||Thanks, will give it a shot.

|||Bump because i think these things could be super popular.

Posted on September 30th, 2011 at 6:40 PM by admin

I am just starting out in tournament poker, and i was wondering what a good player in the top 5% of players around the world cash percentage in tournaments is.

Thank you

|||I’m sure someone will come around with the answer you are looking for, but for now, I’ll just say it’s small enough to make you consider being a cash game specialist.

|||Hi, welcome to the forums

Assuming a reasonably normal tournament structure and payout structure, you’re probably going to be aiming to cash anywhere vaguely near 15% of the time. If you’re cashing a lot more that 20% then you’re probably getting a lot of mincashes, where you just survive with enough chips to make the money. Instead you should always continue to take profitable spots, irrespective of how close you are to the bubble. That’s how you build a big stack to make deep runs to final tables, which is where the big money is. If you’re playing with good bankroll management then occasionally bubbling something shouldn’t really be a concern. That’s the point of BRM.

GL

|||Quote:Originally Posted by Mitch EvansI’m sure someone will come around with the answer you are looking for, but for now, I’ll just say it’s small enough to make you consider being a cash game specialist.Tis sadly true, the variance in large field MTTs can drive you insane. Until you have experienced it, just trust me on this; I’ve been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

On the other hand, MTTs are heaps of fun, but cash is so booooooooooooooooring

|||Quote:Originally Posted by TeamTrousersHi, welcome to the forums

Assuming a reasonably normal tournament structure and payout structure, you’re probably going to be aiming to cash anywhere vaguely near 15% of the time. If you’re cashing a lot more that 20% then you’re probably getting a lot of mincashes, where you just survive with enough chips to make the money. Instead you should always continue to take profitable spots, irrespective of how close you are to the bubble. That’s how you build a big stack to make deep runs to final tables, which is where the big money is. If you’re playing with good bankroll management then occasionally bubbling something shouldn’t really be a concern. That’s the point of BRM.

GL Quote:Originally Posted by TeamTrousersTis sadly true, the variance in large field MTTs can drive you insane. Until you have experienced it, just trust me on this; I’ve been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

On the other hand, MTTs are heaps of funThese

Quote:but cash is so booooooooooooooooring But not this

Congrats on your score, btw, TT

|||Alright so " Team Trousers" you are saying the best players in the world make deep cashes in 15% of the tournaments they play correct? Also at 15% what are theese players average ROI?

|||check out officialpokerrankings.com and search for top mtt players to get an idea of volume, cash %’s, and roi.

|||Does OPP offer live tournament results. I only need brick and mortar results i am making the transistion to Live from Online

|||Nope… hendon mob has some results for big mtts but nothing like what you are looking for.

Posted on September 30th, 2011 at 6:40 PM by admin

I’m in a 11$ R. I add on for 10$. So I’m in for 21$. If I’m in MP what is my shoving range with 17bb on the bubble Avg chip stack left is about 50bb. Should I be shoving with A9suited or pocket 99 with 3 more people til the bubble?

|||That’s a bit too vague. Do you have reads on the players behind? What are the chipstacks for those players? What is your table image right now? The fold equity is important in the range calculation and we need more info to assess. Probably would not want to shove the A9s (too speculative) but the 99 is likely a decent choice depending on the info I mentioned. But this would be completely situational, I would not make that decision in a vacuum.

|||I’m generally still trying to play poker on 17bb, so I might have a minraise/fold and minraise/call range, or depending on table conditions I might set up a stop-and-go on the flop (raise/call to like 4-8 depending on my impression of the other players, ship almost any flop).

But that’s live play, so…

It also depends how much of a bubble this is. Is it a standard top 9% pays MTT, or a top N get X and everyone else gets nothing situation (DoN, satellites to bigger tournaments)?

|||17bb is in the yellow zone, just under the green. I wouldn’t say risking your whole stack (on the bubble) is worth it for 1.5bb. You might want to see a flop with hands like that, but I’m not shoving unless there’s other things we haven’t accounted for, such as trying to isolate a short stack who limped, table image, and other stacks involved in the hand.

|||lol well is it just some random tourney bubble or is it a bubble thats gonna make a difference to us? How many players behind us have us covered?

As a default im probably not jamming anything here, but table dynamics are soooooo important.

September 30

Poker VT
Posted on September 30th, 2011 at 6:06 PM by admin

HI!
I have been a member of Deuces Cracked for some time now and a few years back I have also been a member of PokerVT and been recieving their emails but unfortunately I lost that account.

For now I’m playing lower stakes 6max and HU cash so I’m wondering if they have anything in that range and also if the videos can be downloaded.

How about some other coaching sites? I have been thinking about VT, Leggo poker, PokerSavvy and Drag th Bar

THANKS
JOJO

|||If you’re playing HU and 6max NL, then I’d go with DTB.

|||Do the free trials?

September 30

Live Table Adjustments
Posted on September 30th, 2011 at 2:26 PM by admin

I’ve had a few good cash runs at dog tracks or casinos, but I’ve had losses too. One of my leaks for sure is not adjusting to players that open raise a lot more. Another is not adjusting too well when normal preflop raises are >6x. I got invited to a 20 dollar home game, which I imagine is probably 5-10cent (A lot easier to mess with than 10-20cent), but I’m told the game "tends to get crazy." By that I mean, when I first heard of it, another friend told me it’s a 100 dollar game. If the blinds are strictly 5cent-10cent, but it’s insanely deep, that probably means it plays closer to 25cent-50cent or 50cent-1dollar instead right?

Basically I just want to know how much I should be raising if the game looks like this. I raise maybe to 40cents and get 5 callers when I really would rather just have one. Does that mean next time I raise 2 dollars and tighten up the opening range?

|||Why do you think a $20 home game is 5c 10c? I run a $20 min buy-in that’s 25c 50c. Do you know for sure its 5c 10c?

If someone’s raising with a wide range of hands, then you can profitably call with a wider range of hands. By that I mean, wider than what you would normally call with, NOT wider than what he is raising with.

Odds are you won’t have to adjust at all. Just play ABC poker. If someone is 6xing, make sure you have the equity to call based on what you think he has.

|||Well I was thinking maybe it was just a 20 dollar buyin and that they were playing 5c10c from that. What about my raises though? If I’m the one raising 6x and everyone calls light?

|||I really think this game will be a 25c 50c or even a 50c $1 game with a min of $20. In which you shouldn’t be raising 6x. But, if the stacks are deep and they won’t adjust accordingly, then you can value raise 6x the bb.

|||Are you saying if the stacks are deep, I should raise bigger? That’s what I was kinda asking. sorry if I’m not clear. I would prefer it be 25c50c or 50c1d but if it’s 5/10c, I’ve seen people call raises very light. So if it is deep stacked, raise more?

|||Well the stacks have to be somewhat deep to make 6xing correct. Just go and see how the flow of the game goes. You could raise 5x or 6x at 25c 50c with aces with $20 behind if they are going to call with garbage.

|||Okay thanks.

September 30

Staking Question
Posted on September 30th, 2011 at 12:45 PM by admin

Question: If the buy in = $95 and I stake my friend $40…What should he pay me if he cashes?

|||He could pay you the buyin + the same piece (%) you bought in for. It depends if you want to pay him for his play. Keep in mind you are not staking him, you are buying a piece.

|||http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/135/staking/

September 30

tilted and busto again
Posted on September 30th, 2011 at 12:02 PM by admin

been buikding my role and have made some profit but ran so badly today that i tilted my whole roll off and now am broke AGAIN

I GET POWNED AT EVERY TABOE I SIT AT COS I AM SOOOOOO EXPLOITABLE

PEOPLE KNOW MY NEXT MOVE

I AM CRAP

I AM A DONK

I LOSE

I AM A LOSER AT POKER

THIS LAPTOP IS LOOKING LIKE NUMBER 2 FOR THE BIN

FML

|||not really a question….just decided to tell everyone that your bad at poker?

|||I CANT BEAT THE GAME

|||lol i like this.

|||Sick brag about playing poker though.

|||garph?

|||Quote:Originally Posted by TiltandsmashmycompI CANT BEAT THE GAMEno one can we all just lie!

|||standart

|||lets see a graph or some hands of you getting owned i need a good chuckle lol

|||Screen name?

|||Time to time, everyone goes bust.

|||lol i have calmed down now..laptop still in one peice…tilts a bitch!!!

after my aces got cracked by SCs in the big blind i just went into meltdown

i like to keep my cashier open to see how im doing and after i went down about 20 dollars i just went crazy

every hand i lost was tilt so i guess this post is pointless

Tomorrow is anogher day and i have to hit the reset button and start again!!!

happy tilting!!

TAS!

|||PokerStars – €0.05 NL (6 max) – Holdem – 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: €4.97
SB: €5.21
BB: €3.53
Hero (UTG): €5.13
MP: €4.19
CO: €9.61

SB posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.05

Pre Flop: (€0.07) Hero has A A

Hero raises to €0.15, MP calls €0.15, fold, fold, SB calls €0.13, fold

Flop: (€0.50, 3 players) 7 6 3
SB checks, Hero bets €0.40, fold, SB raises to €1.40, Hero raises to €4.55, SB raises to €5.06 and is all-in, Hero calls €0.43 and is all-in

Turn: (€10.46, 2 players) 2

River: (€10.46, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:
SB shows 4 5 (Straight, Seven High)
Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
SB wins €9.94

|||PokerStars – €0.05 NL (6 max) – Holdem – 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: €14.33
BTN: €5.00
SB: €5.78
Hero (BB): €8.99
UTG: €9.44
MP: €5.00

SB posts SB €0.02, Hero posts BB €0.05

Pre Flop: (€0.07) Hero has 5 4

fold, fold, CO raises to €0.15, fold, SB calls €0.13, Hero calls €0.10

Flop: (€0.45, 3 players) 7 3 5
SB bets €0.40, Hero calls €0.40, fold

Turn: (€1.25, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets €0.75, SB calls €0.75

River: (€2.75, 2 players) 7
SB bets €1.75, Hero raises to €4.50, SB calls €2.73 and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows 5 4 (Full House, Fives full of Sevens)
SB shows 7 8 (Full House, Sevens full of Fives)
SB wins €11.14

|||PokerStars – €0.05 NL (6 max) – Holdem – 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: €5.74
SB: €4.93
Hero (BB): €4.31
UTG: €5.62
CO: €8.22

SB posts SB €0.02, Hero posts BB €0.05

Pre Flop: (€0.07) Hero has A J

UTG raises to €0.20, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls €0.15

Flop: (€0.42, 2 players) 8 J 7
Hero bets €0.25, UTG raises to €0.75, Hero calls €0.50

Turn: (€1.92, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, UTG bets €1.85, Hero raises to €3.36 and is all-in, UTG calls €1.51

River: (€8.64, 2 players) 9

Spoiler:
Hero shows A J (One Pair, Jacks)
UTG shows 9 T (Straight, Jack High)
UTG wins €8.22

September 30

equity
Posted on September 30th, 2011 at 11:26 AM by admin

Ok. PLEASE EXPLAIN POT EQUITY, FOLD EQUITY AND FEAR EQUITY IN THE SIMPLEST WORDING POSSIBLE.

|||NO U

Seriously, I hope no one is going to come along and spoon feed it to you. Try using the search function, or check out the Concept of the week threads on micro full ring forum that discuss these ideas. Or use google for a simple definition.

|||POT EQUITY IS EQUITY THAT IS IN THE POT, FOLD EQUITY IS EQUITY DERIVED FROM A FOLD AND FEAR EQUITY IS EQUITY FROM FEAR BUT WE CALL IT "PHEAR EQUITY" BECAUSE THAT’S WAY COOLER.

|||what the hell is fear equity lol?

thepokerbank dot com is good

|||Turn CAPS off. People will think you’re shouting.

Your pot equity is the probability that you’ll win the hand. You can calculate it preflop, or on any street. eg. "I was a 70% /30% fav when the money went in."

Sometimes expressed as a $ amount, by multiplying the pot by your percentage chance of winning.
Eg. Pot is $80, you have 45% equity, your equity might be expressed as
$80 x 0.45 = $36

To calculate pot equity accurately (or as accurately as you can, given that you may not know villain’s hand exactly, but can only put them on a range) you’ll want an equity calculator such as Pokerstove (or, much better imo, the online ProPokerTools).

Fold equity is the chance that your opponent will fold (and you therefore win the pot) if you bet.

It’s fold equity that makes semi-bluffing profitable. You win if villain folds, but can still go on to win if he calls.

I’ve no idea what Fear equity is. Sounds like another name for fold equity.

Welcome to the Forums.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by oogabuga265what the hell is fear equity lol?Dude I already said that’s PHEAR EQUITY

|||Fear equity is explained in Kill Everyone I believe.

It’s the equity you gain from the opponent thinking about how much harder the rest of the tournament is going to be if he were to play this pot with you and lose half his chips for example.

In cash games it’s not applicable, if villain plays a pot well and still loses he will just auto-topup and continue playing, knowing equity will even out statistically.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by RNautaFear equity is explained in Kill Everyone I believe.

It’s the equity you gain from the opponent thinking about how much harder the rest of the tournament is going to be if he were to play this pot with you and lose half his chips for example.

In cash games it’s not applicable, if villain plays a pot well and still loses he will just auto-topup and continue playing, knowing equity will even out statistically.That’s ****ing stupid. All your explaining goes into fold equity not something gay like fear equity.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by oogabuga265That’s ****ing stupid. All your explaining goes into fold equity not something gay like fear equity.Well…fold equity clearly has lots of sub categories: fear equity, wrong decision equity, nervousness equity, bad pokerness equity…not seeing the problem here

|||fear equity is something to do with putting someone AI in a tournament i think

|||Quote:Originally Posted by RNautaFear equity is explained in Kill Everyone I believe.

It’s the equity you gain from the opponent thinking about how much harder the rest of the tournament is going to be if he were to play this pot with you and lose half his chips for example.

In cash games it’s not applicable, if villain plays a pot well and still loses he will just auto-topup and continue playing, knowing equity will even out statistically.this, its just pretty well players being scared to make a move on you, try to steal blinds etc, its supposed to be a way to scare off good players as in kill everyone one of the big factors of equalizing a pro or better players is playing almost a push/fold mentality, meaning that they will be scared to play with you as they know you are willing to get all your chips in at anytime.

|||Thanks for the help e everyone.

|||you missed spite equity