Posted on August 30th, 2011 at 11:23 PM by admin

I try to get a handle of the Fit-or-Fold type of player using my HUD and would appreciate your input. Basically, I would look for a high "Fold to Flop Bet %" as well as a low WTSD. Sometimes you bump into players who will have a high "Fold F bet" (75+) as well as a high WTSD (30+). I can’t make sense of it, much less base my decisions on this piece of information. I know, there’s much more to consider in the hand, but maybe there’s something I can take away here.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by eroockI try to get a handle of the Fit-or-Fold type of player using my HUD and would appreciate your input. Basically, I would look for a high "Fold to Flop Bet %" as well as a low WTSD. Sometimes you bump into players who will have a high "Fold F bet" (75+) as well as a high WTSD (30+). I can’t make sense of it, much less base my decisions on this piece of information. I know, there’s much more to consider in the hand, but maybe there’s something I can take away here.Well add the AF (Aggresion Factor) and look at the VPIP/PFR

if he has a low VPIP/PFR he’s willing to go to showdown more often

Basically anything with a high AF and low WTSD is a fit or fold kind of player imo because he’s basically raising you and going for the showdown or folding

|||Yes , and he does not face cbets often because he is the aggressor most of the time .

Posted on August 30th, 2011 at 10:36 PM by admin

I was UTG+1 200BB with a $6 straddle with 175BB on the button.

It gets folded to me I look down at JsJc, I open to $20. Gets folded to the button straddle who is super agro. who three bets with a wide range in position. He flat calls my pre flop raise.

The flop is 9c 10s 2d.

I check he raises to $75 i flat call.

The turn is a 5h i bet into him $100 he flat calls me.

The river is a Ac i check he pushes all-in roughly $200 i call.

he shows A6o.

I say nice hand rack and leave GG.

How could i have played this differently or maybe some advice period? I am a winning payer at this level but know i have some leaks I need to fill one is being to passive any advice would be helpful. Thanks

|||I probably c/f river or maybe throw a blocking bet on river (looks weak but works good against ppl who aren’t gonna exploit u and he should be worrying about the Ace unless he has one)

I also cbet that flop but that line is ok but I prefer prob a blocking bet on river

|||I don’t think there is much wrong with this, you gave him a massive price to see a river with his super weak holding, just accept that even when played correct you won’t win every hand. WP etc

|||fold river

|||Quote:Originally Posted by IamProI probably c/f river or maybe throw a blocking bet on river (looks weak but works good against ppl who aren’t gonna exploit u and he should be worrying about the Ace unless he has one)

I also cbet that flop but that line is ok but I prefer prob a blocking bet on riverHow big of a blocking bet? If he goes over the top would you still call?

Thanks for the feedback…

|||Quote:Originally Posted by MattVanDamI don’t think there is much wrong with this, you gave him a massive price to see a river with his super weak holding, just accept that even when played correct you won’t win every hand. WP etcVery true i was just wondering if i should have bombed the turn but i was getting greedy and trying to get max value i guess you are right sometimes you come up on the short end it is poker… If any other card comes off Im probably not writing about it lol

|||Quote:Originally Posted by RJ7How big of a blocking bet? If he goes over the top would you still call?

Thanks for the feedback…No I would probably fold if he shoved, not rly sure on size

Like u can play very exploitable against fish since u know they won’t play back at u (unless they show u otherwise, then they will prob bluff too much then u just adjust)

I think this hand hand comes down to your turn bet size (thanks to your flop c/c), u have to plan ahead if he flats and a scare card comes (which is a good chance). Like it looks retardly passive but c/f isn’t the worst here unless u know he bluffs here a ton (and u rly have to know for sure not just hey maybe he does).

Like I would prefer to bet flop, bet turn and shove river line (if he has the Ace then he wins, nothing u can do since he could still call with worse; its Live so they might pay u off with a 10) U could always check in the dark too , u would be surprised so many times I have seen ppl miss obv value spots just b/c u check in the dark or act like u are gonna bet etc

Like maybe bet a bit less on the turn to induce a re-raise and/or make your life easier on the river.

Could someone comment on my thought process b/c I might be totally wrong here lol

|||Quote:Originally Posted by IamProNo I would probably fold if he shoved, not rly sure on size

Like u can play very exploitable against fish since u know they won’t play back at u (unless they show u otherwise, then they will prob bluff too much then u just adjust)

I think this hand hand comes down to your turn bet size (thanks to your flop c/c), u have to plan ahead if he flats and a scare card comes (which is a good chance). Like it looks retardly passive but c/f isn’t the worst here unless u know he bluffs here a ton (and u rly have to know for sure not just hey maybe he does).

Like I would prefer to bet flop, bet turn and shove river line (if he has the Ace then he wins, nothing u can do since he could still call with worse; its Live so they might pay u off with a 10) U could always check in the dark too , u would be surprised so many times I have seen ppl miss obv value spots just b/c u check in the dark or act like u are gonna bet etc

Like maybe bet a bit less on the turn to induce a re-raise and/or make your life easier on the river.

Could someone comment on my thought process b/c I might be totally wrong here lolYeah very true thanks for the help.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by RJ7I was UTG+1 200BB with a $6 straddle with 175BB on the button.

It gets folded to me I look down at JsJc, I open to $20. Gets folded to the button straddle who is super agro. who three bets with a wide range in position. He flat calls my pre flop raise.

The flop is 9c 10s 2d.

I check he raises to $75 i flat call.

The turn is a 5h i bet into him $100 he flat calls me.

The river is a Ac i check he pushes all-in roughly $200 i call.

he shows A6o.

I say nice hand rack and leave GG.

How could i have played this differently or maybe some advice period? I am a winning payer at this level but know i have some leaks I need to fill one is being to passive any advice would be helpful. ThanksWhat was your plan for that flop?

Unless you had a strong read you should lead that flop. As played, checkraise.

By check calling that flop, villain is setting up for a huge river bluff.

He’s not calling your turn bet planning to hit that 3 outer. He makes the same move if a K drops on the river. (Probably regardless of what comes on the river)

You nailed it though. You have to play less passive.

|||I was also thinking if u c/c flop then c/r turn is the better line def with stack sizes

|||Quote:Originally Posted by Saul T. NutzWhat was your plan for that flop?

Unless you had a strong read you should lead that flop. As played, checkraise.

By check calling that flop, villain is setting up for a huge river bluff.

He’s not calling your turn bet planning to hit that 3 outer. He makes the same move if a K drops on the river. (Probably regardless of what comes on the river)

You nailed it though. You have to play less passive.The line i took was very passive and i realized that after but i was thinking by betting the turn he would see it as me making a move maybe looking weak i could get it all in on the turn if he raised. looking back you are right his plan after me check the flop was to set up a huge river bluff.

Yeah i know he not calling for a three outter and i think that is why i thought he was shipping the river cause i took a passive line and looked weak.

Any tips or advice on how to get out of a passive mentallty?

|||Quote:Originally Posted by RJ7Any tips or advice on how to get out of a passive mentallty?Bet bet bet?

|||Quote:Originally Posted by IamProI was also thinking if u c/c flop then c/r turn is the better line def with stack sizesYeah i dont think he would have went c/c on the turn because then his river bluff wouldnt have made to much sense really and kinda spewy. If i check raise him he really cant call without a hand because that shows strength.

All of these are really good lines and tips thanks for helping me.

Yeah at the lower stakes it doesnt pay off to try to many tricky plays so bet bet bet is a good way to get out of that mentallty i dont want my game to turn into Negreanu style of play maybe the thought process but not the passive style. lol

Posted on August 30th, 2011 at 10:35 PM by admin

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|||read the sticky ffs

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|||If you had read them, you wouldn’t NEED to ask for a mod’s help.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by whydowe_fallIf you had read them, you wouldn’t NEED to ask for a mod’s help.+1

|||Quote:……….no

if you wanted more help you are doing it wrong. your post history on 2+2 defines you on 2+2.

August 30

H.E.M. problem
Posted on August 30th, 2011 at 10:34 PM by admin

Hey there, I have recently bought Hold ‘em Manager and cannot for the life of me import hands. I have followed the instructions on auto importing, made sure the box is ticked on pokerstars and its in english. When i click auto import while a game is open it just brings a white box up with the table names (but wrongly says 6 max not 9) and after a hand it never changes/updates and the green bar always says no new hands found next to it. I have read the FAQ’s and not really found anything there. I’m pretty sure I haven’t put the files in the wrong place but I’m a little noobish and don’t know much about computers so it might be that if I’m missing something.

Any help/information would be appreciated as the sooner I can get it working the sooner I can improve my game, Thanks in advance.

|||I’m pretty awful with computers, but you have to make sure that Pokerstars is saving your hand histories (i.e. sort this out on Stars), make sure you know where on your computer it is saving them (find this through My Computer) and then make sure HEM is directed to Auto import from that folder (fix on HEM).

|||Go to "add auto import folders". If there is nothing there then you need to add the site. If it is there you need to go to the location and see if there are any hand histories. If there aren’t you need to configure your poker client (whatever one you are using) to save hand histories.

The white box is table manager which is used for the HUD. Don’t close it (minimizing it is okay) or it will stop the HUD (which you can relaunch by going to HUD options -> relaunch HUD.

|||I don’t mean to hijack but when u click on save hand history in stars how long r u guys saving it for?

|||Quote:Originally Posted by RedGladiatorI don’t mean to hijack but when u click on save hand history in stars how long r u guys saving it for?The maximum, whatever that is.

|||Great iv sussed it out, it was still saving them to the pokertracker folder i was using from the free trial. Your post made me go back through the basics so im grateful for your time.

If anyone has any good links for any reading material on how to get the best out of it i would appreciate that.

|||HEM’s online help and FAQs will tell you more than you ever need to know.

|||Yeah I’ve skimmed it and it seems to be very useful thanks.

I’m now having problems with getting the stats to sit over the players names properly, it says edit them and you click the (pink/red) side of the bar and it moves but not where i want it and it will only move a few spaces. Maybe i better get some sleep and try again when im not so stressed lol

|||Ignore that, iv just realised that a right click n drag solve all my major problems :P

|||Enjoy HEM, it’s awesome!

|||Can’t get HEM to work on my laptop. Always get the dreaded "password is too simple" on postSQL installation.

Been asking all over the place for a sollution.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by britewireCan’t get HEM to work on my laptop. Always get the dreaded "password is too simple" on postSQL installation.

Been asking all over the place for a sollution.Download the latest install package: I used that this weekend and it detected the password requirement and gave PGSQL some really weird password using lots of numbers and weird characters.
Alternative is to install PGSQL yourself.

|||I’ll try it when I get home.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by Mr BeerEnjoy HEM, it’s awesome!Thanks, It looks a little complicated but im sure if i put the time in i will get plenty of reward back. I have been reading the thread where they are saying ban them/unfair advantage blah blah blah so they must be worthwhile

Posted on August 30th, 2011 at 6:51 PM by admin

I have been discussing poker on this forum since 2004 and I’d like to share a few things that may help someone who is just starting out.

About myself, I have a family and a full time job that keep me busy so I play as a hobby in my spare time. Just because I play as a hobby doesn’t mean I don’t care about winning and improving my game. I have made one $50 deposit on stars ever and one $100 deposit on FTP. I usually just play a few tables at a time and here is my lifetime graph of all hands played (except for the party poker days before US players were banned).

If you would like to improve your game, stop making deposit after deposit and start winning your share of the $$$ here are some suggestions…

The first step is to get the technical aspects of the game down. Plenty of good books on 2p2 can help in this area. Find the game you like and browse the book section of this forum. Lets say NL is your game, any of the Harrington books are what your looking for and a simple search will produce a review to see if its the book for you.

The next step is to discuss strategy in the appropriate forum for the game your going to be learning. The stickies at the top of the page are pure gold. Know them inside and out. Post any hands that you had a problem with and the feedback will put you on the fast track to success the next time you encounter that type of situation.

The next step is to use your tools of the trade. Just like a car mechanic can’t fix a car without tools, a poker player will start winning faster with the help of tools such as HEM or poker tracker. These are vital to reviewing your game and make sure your playing the winning style discussed in the stickies I just mentioned. If sngs are your game then invest in wiz. These tools will all pay for themselves before you know it.

The next step is kind of two steps in one. Putting in the volume and dealing with variance. The hard part about this game is that you can play winning poker and also lose money for extended periods of time. I had a hard time dealing with the swings of the game and that resulted in putting a damper on my volume. If your making plays that are +EV then the last thing you want to do is cut down on the volume (provided your not tilting). In regards to volume I really like the book by Dusty Schmidt, Treat your poker like a business. Once you get your winning game going I suggest reading this book. In regards to variance I recently came across this post that will help in understanding how bad and how long things can go bad for. link

In closing I’d also suggest that to get the most out of this forum you try to give back to the players who are where you used to be. Helping out with a hand discussion will also help your game in the process.

GL

|||thanks

|||vn checkmate

|||Good stuff, ty for the link

|||Quote:Originally Posted by IamProGood stuff, ty for the linkI really like the above link as well. Would have been nice to watch that video when first starting out.

|||I love when ppl do this kind of post, so helpful!!
NH Checkmate

Posted on August 30th, 2011 at 2:46 PM by admin

Where do you guys keep your hand history files ? Is defualt /pokerstars/HandHistory ? Because mine were in %APPDATA%/pokerstars/history or something. Need to know for a program i’m writing.

|||Not sure what the default is, but you can specify where you want the hand histories to be stored.

So you might want to include an option for users of your program to tell it which folder they’re using.

Good Luck.

|||OP makin a bot

|||Quote:Originally Posted by DiamondDogNot sure what the default is, but you can specify where you want the hand histories to be stored.

So you might want to include an option for users of your program to tell it which folder they’re using.

Good Luck.Ofcourse, But before asking it’ll scan for avi. clients and asks the user which one he wants to use ( if there is more than one ).

And no, I’m not writing a bot =]

|||C:\Users\*USERNAME HERE*\AppData\Local\PokerStars\HandHistory is default. Without username would be C:\AppData\Local\PokerStars\HandHistory

Posted on August 30th, 2011 at 1:58 PM by admin

Hi,

Okay I used to use sharkscope for finding out the rankings of online players, but now with online playing pretty much dead in USA, I am interested to find out ranking of live game players. I want this so if/when I get coaching from them, I can first check to see if this guy is truly a winning player or not…..

Is there a place to check for that?
Thanks

|||no

|||In live we keep no records of rankings in cash games. If you went to the pokerroom and asked around "whos the best" is likely to get the same response over and over…."I am".

|||If you’re talking MTT players there are sites that will at least list players cashes etc. in major tournies. If for eg. someone’s claiming they final tabled a WPT/EPT event etc. something like HendonMob and various others are an easy way to check if they’re full of it.

Cash games, no chance.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by BeerMonsterIf you’re talking MTT players there are sites that will at least list players cashes etc. in major tournies. If for eg. someone’s claiming they final tabled a WPT/EPT event etc. something like HendonMob and various others are an easy way to check if they’re full of it.ofc those are useless beyond curiousity as they just list cashes, and not buyins, roi or anything that’s actually value

|||I agree.

Although still useful to check that people aren’t making up results and can still show a history of deep runs at major live tournies etc.

August 30

got a lot of FTPs
Posted on August 30th, 2011 at 1:33 PM by admin

how can I convert them to $ or T$ ?
I know I can buy 50$ for 16k FTPs .. but I’m looking to various ways to get T$ or even real $
I’m checking the satellites and it’s only tickets . Can I unregister and use the ticket to whatever I want ?

|||no you can’t unregister tickets

if you play cash games, the cash game tickets are effectively real cash

|||or you can sell your ftp in market place to ppl that want things from the store

Posted on August 30th, 2011 at 11:31 AM by admin

Im wondering how many hands need to play to achieve supernova status in NL25/NL50.

|||http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/calculator/

google search feature FTW

|||Quote:Originally Posted by Blind2itAllhttp://www.pokerstars.com/vip/calculator/

google search feature FTWTy.

|||Bump.

Idk if im stupid or what but i dont get this Supernova system.

In the page calculator it says you just achieve platinum and u need to keep it each month and then achieve SN? I dont get this.

Also i am moving to stars NL100 and i would like to know how many hands would it take for me to achieve SN. Starting with zero VPP.

Hands per hour probably like 800 and NL100 fullring.

Also i have no idea how many VPP-s per hand i get.

|||Quote:Originally Posted by J0hnyBump.

Idk if im stupid or what but i dont get this Supernova system.

In the page calculator it says you just achieve platinum and u need to keep it each month and then achieve SN? I dont get this.

Also i am moving to stars NL100 and i would like to know how many hands would it take for me to achieve SN. Starting with zero VPP.

Hands per hour probably like 800 and NL100 fullring.This is because platinum is a monthly VIP and supernova is a yearly VIP

|||http://fpppro.com/

|||http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/supernova/

just look on their site.

|||350k hands in nl100

Posted on August 30th, 2011 at 11:03 AM by admin

Any tips for a relatively new poker player playing live 1/2 NL in regards to the psychology/leveling aspect of the game?

I know this is a really vague and abstract question, but I find that when I look back on hands I try to convince myself I was thinking about what he was thinking I thought he had, even though I believe I’m only really thinking on level 2. Is this just something that will come with more experience, or is it something I can work on?

Any imput would be great, thx.

|||People at these games think on level 1, you just think on level 2.
Oh, don’t tilt